Expression of Opinion about Tulloch Road Traffic Cahos: DPTI-Council at odds

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Traffic jam Featured General November 18, 2015 nov11_8505 TRAFFIC increases of up to 50 per cent, including vehicles queuing for almost 200 metres, are being predicted for a troubled traffic spot in Evanston. Locals are growing increasingly concerned about the area on Main North Road between Tulloch and Potts roads, which is already facing congestion issues. However, the approaching opening of Bunnings, as well as the possible establishment of an Aldi and link connector road in the area, have heightened congestion fears. Gawler Mayor Karen Redman said a council study had found the current traffic volumes at the Tulloch and Main North roads intersection suggested it was already struggling to cope with traffic. “The establishment of Bunnings and then, potentially, Aldi, will add approximately 40 to 50 per cent more traffic to the peak evening period, with school pick-up coinciding with greater volumes of shoppers at that time of the day,” she said. “This will result in excessively long queues extending up to approximately 190 metres back from the Main North Road intersection.” A number of suggestions have been made from the community on how to improve the situation, including reopening Barnet Street in front of Gawler & District College B-12 to two-way traffic again. Mayor Redman acknowledged the fact that two schools, Gawler & District College and Trinity College, were located close to the intersection, further compounded the situation. “We will need child- and youth-friendly traffic solutions to deal with the peak arrival and departure of kids from these schools,” she said. Council has also expressed concern over the short- and long-term traffic impacts should the State Government go ahead with its announced plans to bring the Gawler East link road down Potts Road to Main North Road. Mayor Redman said if the link road went ahead with the proposed Potts Road alignment, it would further exacerbate the Main North Road-Tulloch Road intersection, which has already been subject of considerable complaints to council by road users. “The reality is we can’t look at the proposed link road in isolation,” she said. “This piece of critical infrastructure will have ramifications across Gawler’s entire traffic network.” “Having said that, it should be noted that the signalising of Potts Road will improve the peak period queue lengths due to breaks in the traffic created by the lights.” Council is currently negotiating with the State Government over the direction of the link road, with the Government backing the Potts Road route, while council is pushing for a Tiver Road alignment. http://www.bunyippress.com.au/traffic-jam/ ====================== Naomi Warner Make road by g&d college both ways. Traffic lights tulloch road. Turn left with care. Close off other intersection near servo but leave potts road open. Then. Traffic from g&d going to Evanston etc can avoid main road without going 3kms around back. Like · 3 · Report · 3 hours ago Malex Ander No lights at Potts with the road going straight through at that point onto Para Road. Remove the dogleg up to the school. Makes natural break in traffic flow for the shopping centre further down through light changes and doesn't prevent access to Evanston Gardens from Evanston (their only shops). Malex Ander Half the issues are the crappy Gawler drivers. I get stuck there often waiting for Suzie homemaker to learn how to enter traffic more often than not... Seeing gaps galore but no one bothering to take one. Then there is the mentality of the traffic on main north Rd where if they do see someone pull out, they won't reduce speed, just beep like they own all the roads and no one else should be able to move. Barnett St isn't the answer, get rid of the old Barnett St to Para Rd dogleg entirely, make the pedestrian lights actual traffic lights at Potts and Para (four way by Main Nth, Para and Potts) and see what impact that has to natural flow. If that is still not enough, roundabouts work wonders. Hurry up with the Gordon Rd to Evanston Gardens bit too... Still the "long way" round, but better than being stuck in traffic. ========================================= Aldi okayed: No road change Featured General November 25, 2015 nov25_0887 FRUSTRATED drivers will become “aggressive” and “undertake unsafe manoeuvres” at a busy Evanston intersection, which is set to become even more gridlocked with the approval of an Aldi supermarket, according to Gawler Council. The State Government’s Development Assessment Commission last week gave the German supermarket giant approval to establish a centre on a vacant block of land on Tulloch Road opposite the Gawler Green Shopping Centre and new Bunnings complex. The Tulloch Road-Main North Road T-junction intersection already experiences high volumes of traffic from the shopping centre and nearby schools. Gawler Council predicts the opening of Bunnings, in coming weeks, and the now impending opening of Aldi, next year, will increase already busy traffic volumes at the black spot by another 50 per cent. Mayor Karen Redman said peak times in the area would be particularly problematic. “It will not only cause delays to all road users, but will create an unsafe road environment,” she said. “This will occur through delayed and frustrated drivers becoming aggressive and undertaking unsafe manoeuvres.” Gawler Council chief executive Henry Inat confirmed he attended the DAC meeting earlier this month to present “arguments as to why an upgrade to the Tulloch Road – Main North Road intersection should occur as part of the approval processes.” Council officers and a traffic engineering consultant presented the results of studies done on the intersection to the DAC, which found traffic would double and queues as long as 200 metres would be generated if Aldi was approved. However, the presentation fell on deaf ears, with the DAC approving the Aldi application without requiring any additional work needed on the T-junction, arguing the scheduled upgrade of the Potts Road – Main North Road intersection 200 metres away would be an adequate solution. Tulloch Road is a council asset, while Main North Road is controlled by the Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure, making it unclear whose responsibility it is to upgrade the intersection. “It is council’s opinion that the upgrade to the intersection is the responsibility of the State Government,” Mrs Redman said. DPTI failed to answer The Bunyip’s questions about the intersection, instead issuing a one-sentence response, saying it was aware of the situation and would “continue to work with the council to consider potential changes to the junction”. Aldi has indicated the Evanston store should be operational within the next 12 months, prior to any upgrade occurring to the nearby Potts Road – Main North Road intersection by DPTI. ============================================= Like · 1 · Reply · Report · 39 minutes ago 1 reply Andrew Price This section of Gawler has been increasing in the number of shops for years. Council must not get out their offices much if they have only discovered a traffic issue! Like · 3 · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Ally Clarke Its the worst traffic spot.. and so many stupid drivers.. Like · 2 · Reply · Report · 3 hours ago Shauna Gejas To complete my comment.sorry.i think lights somewhere are the solution.whether its potts road or Tulloch it will help.im sick of having to go the long way around on para road to get to Evanston homemaker centre. Like · Reply · Report · 23 minutes ago Shauna Gejas A roundabout wont work.because you will still have to give way to the right and and thats still about finding a gap.open up the road Like · Reply · Report · 26 minutes ago Adam Jolly Bloody soccer mums in their SUVs Like · 1 · Reply · Report · 2 hours ago Russell Smith Why don't you write about the massive traffic jams caused by Trinity College every afternoon. Sometimes extending from the college all the way to the Maccas roundabout. Les Haldane And that drivers come out at the lights there to turn right towards Gawler and don't give way to the main road. They just think they have the right of way. Like · 2 · Report · 2 hours ago Rachael Aimeë or the line up from the lights almost back to starplex. ppl who line up over the roundabouts so if you live on the side roads you cant get round to go the other way Like · 1 · Report · 1 hour ago Kezza Songer Berry The reason we never bought property this side of Gawler at all, it's a joke the trinity traffic, only 1 more year to go Like · 1 · Report · 1 hour ago Sarah Mitchell It blocks up right back onto the bypass. Gawler afternoon traffic is a nightmare. Like · Report · 1 hour ago Elena Diamond They should start to utliize dead reserve land to bypass Trinity College traffic to/from M.N North Road. Trinity college earns enough fee to buy private lands. I heard Next Coles and Bunnings will be developing at Sunnyside/ Alexander Reserve. Like · Edit · 26 minutes ago Russell Smith Judging by the response it seems to me we have more serious traffic issues than just the Coles intersection. Maybe the council just don't want another business outside the Gawler CBD Like · Report · 20 minutes ago Peter Barry Les Haldane there is no broken line at the end of the merging lane, therefore zip merge applies, whoever is in front has right of way. Like · Report · 2 minutes ago Chantelle Tesselaar Basic rule in Gawler.... never turn right... always go left.... my driving instructor drove that home so hard when he taught me how to drive 25 years ago in Gawler... back then it wasmainly Lyndoch, Carlton & Cowan rds onto Murray st.... which now have lights/traffic management in place but if you now use this common sense in other areas it works.... Like · 9 · Reply · Report · 3 hours ago 1 reply Kerry Halloran Fix it than instead of trying to get different businesses to pay for it instead of the government or council not paying Like · 3 · Reply · Report · 3 hours ago Robert Pascale Well council changed Barnett road with consultation with the high school so maybe they should consult again to change it back to two way over the holidays Like · 4 · Reply · Report · 4 hours ago Steve Vereb After reading this story I don't think a solution by council or government is close by. With all the roadworks currently happening around the state there is manpower and equipment available. Only lacking commitment from the decision makers. There will be plenty of sitting on hands until someone is hurt or worse. Like · 2 · Reply · Report · 4 hours ago Kezza Songer Berry It's a bloody nightmare! Just like the stupid car park with one entrance and exit! Like · 1 · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Alyson Rainsford Hurry up beforee someone get injured! Like · 1 · Reply · Report · 2 hours ago Trevor Hall Wow, what a shock. I didn't think THAT would be a problem. Now the blame game continues. Like · 1 · Reply · Report · 3 hours ago Scottie Taylor i moved out of gawler, that fixed the problem for me Edited · Like · Reply · Report · 27 minutes ago Kerry Tania That road is a nightmare !!! Like · Reply · Report · 2 hours ago Amber Sweet That's exactly 🔝why the Tulloch Rd intersection Jams up its impossible to get out in school pick up and drop off especially to turn right. =========================== facebook Previous Next Like Comment Share The Bunyip Newspaper FRUSTRATED drivers will become “aggressive” and “undertake unsafe manoeuvres” at a busy Evanston intersection, which is set to become even more gridlocked with the approval of an Aldi supermarket, according to Gawler Council. http://www.bunyippress.com.au/aldi-okayed-no-road-change/ 1 hour ago · Public · in Timeline Photos View Full Size · Send as Message · Report You and 33 others like this. Write a comment... Attach a Photo · Mention Friends Saqlain Naqvi Council objective is to build budget, nothing in public interests in thousands of pages of study for either of 2 developments. I am going to build another Mall and please don't ask me to build infrastructure. You can wait for another decade to get Fed funding. Edited · Like · Reply · Edit · 2 minutes ago Peter Macc Another point, Gawler council needs to take a long hard look at their planning department, it's all well and good getting all these rate paying business in and not having to improve existing infrastructure but in time to come it's going to catch up with us . Traffic flow is just as important as building things and another set of lights is not the answer, I'd hate to be waiting for an ambulance stuck in Gawler traffic because some town planner can't see past their own nose. Rant over Like · 9 people · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Laurel Hosking stop blaming something that has not even been built yet and address the problem NOW Like · 9 people · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Jodie Exindaris Gawler council is all about Revenue no consideration for the residents of Gawler and surrounding suburbs money making at its best .What about the super school you have caught in the middle of all this No consideration for the families that pick their children up this council is a Joke .you keep adding to what has been a congested town for the last ten years we've been here we moved to Gawler because it was a country town now we're busting out of the seams has your planning team been on the streets have you spoken to the people of Gawler to see what they go thru everyday wake up Gawler Council . Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 36 minutes ago Megan Jade Taylor Stupid area for all this its chaos enough there with the B-12 school already gawler really needs to think about how they place things need one big shopping centre with all the shops might get more business instead of them being all over the place as its a nightmare driving from one to the other especially with kids and shopping Like · 8 people · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Joan Peterkin Of course its busy, when are you going to make it safe with lights?? The first fatality there will be suing the council Like · 4 people · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Tracee Huxtable It was like that way before Gawler green , Bunnings and Aldi . It's the bloody school runs that's the chaotic time because the council stuffed up the road planning Like · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Andrew Chapman Tulloch Rd should never of been built! Why wasnt the plan set out years with traffic lights with a realignment of Para Rd to come out opposite Potts Rd? Make it a four way junction and add lights and problem fixed? Is it to hard? Unlike · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago 2 replies Deep Taggar Then why not gawler council put traffic lights or make a another plan to reduce the traffic? If there is voting system of worst councils in australia, beleive me gawler council would have beat everyone and get 1 in being a worst council Like · Reply · Report · 40 minutes ago Kerry Veale It will take a serious accident . We have to go the back way to get home most of the time to (Evanston Grdns) it to dangerous trying to get on to the main road. Seriously. Gawler Council. Like · Reply · Report · 19 minutes ago View next comments… ============== facebook Previous Next Like Comment Share The Bunyip Newspaper FRUSTRATED drivers will become “aggressive” and “undertake unsafe manoeuvres” at a busy Evanston intersection, which is set to become even more gridlocked with the approval of an Aldi supermarket, according to Gawler Council. http://www.bunyippress.com.au/aldi-okayed-no-road-change/ 1 hour ago · Public · in Timeline Photos View Full Size · Send as Message · Report You and 33 others like this. Write a comment... Attach a Photo · Mention Friends View previous comments… Peter Broelman Just copy nd paste the Britannia roundabout. Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Dylan Panagiotou Bunnings wasnt even open the other day and the carpark was still full..... Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Sandra May Warner The other day. Like over a week ago. Someone pulled out. The car behind them pulled out...the first car didn't go and was blocking the second car with the cement island (they didn't move up) soooo. The second car over took the first car on the right. Then the first car decided they were going to go up to the turning lane and turn right down to the schools. I sat there and thought that was stupid but laughed and laughed. Im sure more than one of us has wanted to do that there at some point. Like · Reply · Report · 48 minutes ago Tanya Liebenau Time for traffic lights there !! Like · Reply · Report · 29 minutes ago Paula McLaughlin Aldi yahh! Like · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Darryl Fish Fisher Install lights .. make the road out front of the high school both ways again Like · 2 people · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Tom Hayden Great to have the facilities but there's a lack of parking and this was before bunnings opened. One would assume a lot worse with the Aldi addition especially at school times. There was a complete lack of thought for pedestrian access. We often walk our son there and cross from the school side..your forced to walk directly in the line of cars at several points to access coles.terrible planning. We do not want another set of lights at the intersection, what's needed is a large roundabout like the other states use to keep traffic moving! Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 45 minutes ago Inarra Thomson I took my son to childcare today and the traffic was horrible. It took me 15 minutes to get from Gawler green to Potts road. Just waiting to turn. Traffic is a nightmare. Fix it now! Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 53 minutes ago Marg Clarke Gawler is no longer the quiet little town it once was and you can't stop progress so you have to move with it. Council needs to start spending money in areas it's needed this being just one of the places that needs urgent attention . The Bunyip Newspaper how much would a set of traffic lights cost for there ? Like · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Amanda Cook People have been driving that way ever since it was put in lol Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago View next comments… ============= Michael Squires oh btw bunnings is open. or maybe i was sleep walking on sunday. Like · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Peter Macc Another exit wouldn't hurt Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Amber Sweet Its chaos now Like · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Carrie Michelle Bayly Something needs to be done straight away, my partner has been in an accident there and I've seen near misses, I hope they don't wait till someone is seriously injured or killed 󾍀 Like · 2 people · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Leonie Hill It needs some traffic lights there for the school kids and it will be safer with lights Like · Reply · Report · 4 minutes ago Hayley Maidment Adam this is about you garentee it lol Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago 1 reply Amanda Morris Definitely needs some lights and or more entrances. Like · Reply · Report · 22 minutes ago Michael Lord Benny Burgess Not surprising, the "corporation of the town of gawler" aren't doing anything for the community it "serves".... Like · Reply · Report · 57 minutes ago Kerry Kaesehagen So put in traffic lights!! Like · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Robert Pascale I'm sick and tired of commenting on this subject Like · Reply · Report · 28 minutes ago ============= Attach a Photo · Mention Friends View previous comments… Tanya Smith Gonna be more of a nightmare than it already is. Like · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Michael Squires here we go again aldi was canncled i read. Like · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago 1 reply Jorgia Carter They need traffic lights its a nightmare Like · 2 people · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Nicky Walker Please install lights Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Lyn Cockburn Lights will probably be installed Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Chantelle West The should of put a roundabout or lights that intersection is a joke , you can't even turn right :/ Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Erny Landherr Here we go again, another report about this intersection....FIX THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!! Like · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Lorenda Jane Hurle-kriticos Lee Harvey got to be kindling me Like · Reply · Report · 57 minutes ago Tiarne Kostrz Tanya Kostrz Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 47 minutes ago 1 reply Kelly Hunter Josh Neilson Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 18 minutes ago 2 replies ===================== View previous comments… Samantha Monks Damien Hill Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Anne Davey Helen Clarke Like · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago Mepston Roberto Samara Frances Like · 1 person · Reply · Report · 1 hour ago 1 reply ===========

800 new homes in $240m Evanston development : Gawler is a suburb of Adelaide. It is not a country town any more

SARAH MARTIN The Advertiser May 21, 2010 12:01AM 20/05/2010 BUSINESS: Evanston Gardens estate aerial view – site of the new Devine homes development A $240 million, 800-home development will be built near Gawler to tap into the growth potential of the northern suburbs, a major developer announced yesterday. Devine property group has entered into an agreement with a landowner to develop a 59ha site at Evanston Gardens, 35km north of Adelaide. The development will provide housing for 2000 residents and will be completed over the next five to six years, with the first stage expected to be ready for release next year. Devine managing director David Keir said the company was keen to tap into the area's growth potential which would be boosted by such government infrastructure projects as the Northern Expressway and the Adelaide-Gawler rail upgrade. The company says it entered into an agreement with the landholder which will enable Devine to develop the land and make staged payments to purchase the site. "From our perspective, it is about conserving our capital to enable us to continue our growth plans," Mr Keir said. He said the development agreement equated to a land purchase price of about $20 million. The development will include 800 homes and will include a network of walking and cycling tracks linking the estate to the Adelaide-Gawler rail line. The area has been earmarked in the State Government's 30-Year Plan for Greater Adelaide as a residential growth area. It is expected to grow by 150 per cent in the next decade. Retail and commercial development adjacent to the railway station and the development site also has been flagged by the Land Management Corporation. Devine's new investment, with its $300 million Lakeside development, indicated the company's faith in the South Australian market, Mr Keir said. "Adelaide is an attractive market for us. It is a very stable market and we have got an established brand and we can produce an affordable offering here," he said. The development site is undergoing rezoning, which is expected by late this year. ============================ Comments on this story Emporer of The North Posted at 1:06 AM May 21, 2010 Oh boy, I can hear the whinging and howls of outrage already. I live not more than 500m from this proposed development and have lived here for over 35 years but it will be those neighbours of mine that have been here 10 years and less that will scream the loudest. I did not care when they built their homes and I dont care about this. I am still waiting for a local supermarket so I dont have to trek 3 to 4 kms every time I do my shopping. Gawler council is notorious for protecting its main street traders, but if this development helps to change things I will be the first to cheer. Maybe Ill be the only one. Emporer of The North Posted at 12:49 PM May 21, 2010 I said it, didnt I. Whinge and complain. Been a Gawlerite all of my life but Ive never heard more whinging than from the Johnnie come latelies who made this "best of town and country" crap up and then destroyed the town trying to make it live up to the claim. Please give up. Gawler can be an outer suburb and still retain its dignity. Complaining and trying to stop the inevitable is the root cause of most of the regions ills. Comment 1 of 40 tony of london Posted at 3:42 AM May 21, 2010 and the sprawl continues... Comment 2 of 40 Paul of Northern Suburbs Posted at 6:08 AM May 21, 2010 Say good bye to the country feel , Gawler, you are about to loose your rural feel........ Comment 3 of 40 red&blueblooded of Location, Location, Location Posted at 6:40 AM May 21, 2010 Just another attempt to eliminate the Green Belt between Smithfield and Gawler. With the ongoing northern expansion of Adelaide from Smithfield soon the Green Belt will cease to exist altogether. So now we will have to find another 60Ha of less productive land somewhere else to grow our food. Comment 4 of 40 scarlet of everywhere Posted at 7:06 AM May 21, 2010 How about some decent sized allotments instead of these ludicrously small blocks we are seeing lately. What ever happened to the standard quarter acre? Comment 5 of 40 Tony of Exeter Posted at 7:15 AM May 21, 2010 800 new homes but not a cent to improve public transport to the region, not a cent to provide for the increased demand on local health care and not a cent to support manufacturing jobs in the northern suburbs! A government with its eye firmly on stamp duty revenue, develepors compaign donations and little if nothing else! Comment 6 of 40 Rob of Adl Posted at 7:26 AM May 21, 2010 Yay another piece of farming land gone Comment 7 of 40 Robert Stewart of Lameroo 5302 Posted at 7:50 AM May 21, 2010 Here's the chance for a green label.Solar for water and energy on the roof, stormwater recovery storage and distribution both as a residential co-operative for service and maintenance of these facilities. SA Water increase of 20% and electricity 30% just to maintain profit margins of the suppliers must be sufficient reason. Comment 8 of 40 Carol Jackson of Willaston Posted at 8:01 AM May 21, 2010 How can they ! The infrastructure of the north can't cope now. the 'best of town and country' will cease to exist. Comment 9 of 40 Andrew of Adelaide Posted at 8:54 AM May 21, 2010 There goes the neighbourhood. So much for living the quiet life in Gawler, no more! I can see the headline now, 'police captured 2 men from Evanston Gardens overnight after a short police chase through the streets of Gawler'. Comment 10 of 40 Tony Frost of 5118 Posted at 9:05 AM May 21, 2010 Gawler best of town and county? not much county left now!!!!!the main nth road ia saturated with traffic now bet these think tanks in the state goverment don,t live anywhere near Gawler. Five yrs time the traffic will be at Ingle Farm somewhere waiting for the lights at Gepps X to turn green. Comment 11 of 40 Jay of Gawler Posted at 9:44 AM May 21, 2010 R.I.P. the beautiful town of Gawler!!! Comment 12 of 40 Bringing the future to Gawler Posted at 9:48 AM May 21, 2010 woo hoo! about time Gawler was dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century! Maybe now we can get some people to live up here who will realise they are in the metro area and not in the country!!! Comment 13 of 40 ASH of GAWLER Posted at 9:53 AM May 21, 2010 Thank goodnes I am getting OLD . Comment 14 of 40 David Beres of Holden Hill Posted at 10:00 AM May 21, 2010 Tambelin station will be the Next Transit Oriented Development. Comment 15 of 40 Ruth of Adelaide Posted at 10:04 AM May 21, 2010 As usual,the name says it all. A plan for a Greater Adelaide is as absurd as it is pompous. We should be initiating a plan for the re-location of generations of disadvantaged people in the northern region of Adelaide to other cities where they and their children can escape this outcome. Lack of services in education, health, job opportunities have taken their toll. Adding more to this number is just madness and reeks of another real estate venture for the usual quick profits. Comment 16 of 40 Yes please of Reality Posted at 10:07 AM May 21, 2010 Carol...would this create new jobs with the need to build "infrastructure"? I think Adelaide is one of the worst planned cities in Australia....the urban sprawl is ridiculous.. Gawler is a suburb unless you live 10kms out of town on at least 5 acres, dont kid yourselves. Comment 17 of 40 country at heart Posted at 10:12 AM May 21, 2010 And with it all goes not only the "country" lifestyle but some of the best farming land in SA. Someone please explain to our so-called knowledgable experts where their food comes from and the more land we use for housing the more we ALL pay, in the long run. Comment 18 of 40 Gotta love those Bottlenecks every morning! Posted at 10:14 AM May 21, 2010 6 years ago it took about 20-25mins to get from Craigmore to Gepps Cross in peak hour traffic. Currently it is 45-50mins. What will it be after this latest development is completed? Main North Road and Salisbury Hwy just cannot cope with the current traffic congestion. Especially where 3 lanes merge into 2. All for more housing, but fix the roads first! Comment 19 of 40 Tim G of Adelaide Posted at 10:49 AM May 21, 2010 This is funny,as those new residents will take longer to get to the city via main north rd than someone who lives at Pt.Wakefield. I would have thought land closer to the city would be utilised for development first. Comment 20 of 40 Mark SA of Adelaide Posted at 10:54 AM May 21, 2010 Original bushland? Farms? Parks and gardens? Open spaces? Pfft who needs 'em. So long as every new McMansion has a home theatre room we can watch them on TV. In 3D no less! So keep breeding and building people the PM has population targets to meet! (and he doesn't apologise for that) Comment 21 of 40 Shaun of country SA Posted at 10:58 AM May 21, 2010 Typical South Australia, someone announces a new development and every one complains that their 18th century life style will be ruined. Hello... news flash Gawler is a suburb of Adelaide. It is not a country town any more. Comment 22 of 40 Andy of Gawler Posted at 10:58 AM May 21, 2010 How can so many houses be approved without the infrastructure in place required to accommodate the population. Based on this the Gawler - Adelaide train will be full by the time it hit's Smithfield. Comment 23 of 40 my 2c Posted at 11:05 AM May 21, 2010 The land in question was/is used for growing grain. The average yeild, using published data, would be about 155 tonnes of wheat or barley which will have to be grown somewhere else. But it's the loss of the open space and the green belt that's of concern. Gawler is becoming part of the greater Adelaide urban sprawl. Maybe it's time to move to Roseworthy... oh yes the urban sprawl will reach out to Roseworthy in a few more years too. Comment 24 of 40 mike of adelaide Posted at 11:07 AM May 21, 2010 this is great news , but unless they provide a train service its all but useless really........ high speed express trains to the city would make it a very tempting proposition! Comment 25 of 40 Raul Duke of radelaide Posted at 11:12 AM May 21, 2010 to those complaining about main north road and the lack of infrastructure, the northern expressway passes about three minutes drive from this estate. Comment 26 of 40 over an hour from Elizabeth to City of stuck on Main North Road Posted at 11:24 AM May 21, 2010 Gotta love those Bottlenecks - see what happens when the northern expressway is open, giving Gawler commuters another route to get to the city, might ease pressure off Main North Road. I think certain areas of Main North Road could be extended to 90 rather than 80 and traffic light cycles could be improved. Also, the trains are now being upgraded on the Gawler line which may increase commuters on the trains and leaving less traffic on the roads. Comment 27 of 40 Never cross the bogun fence of my own accord Posted at 12:07 PM May 21, 2010 Is this past Gepps Cross? I thought that was the end of the road... Comment 28 of 40 Flossy of North Posted at 12:19 PM May 21, 2010 And the great scab that Adelaide has become festers out even further. What used to be separate communities is now engulfed in a morass of smell, noise, traffic jams and endless shopping complexes. The secret of the north is out and its over! Gawler is about to become the new Old Noarlunga,lost completely and forever. Comment 29 of 40 Andy of Gawler Posted at 12:42 PM May 21, 2010 Raul Duke, and I guess there will be extra trains?? Infrastructure does not just extend to roads! Comment 30 of 40 Comment 31 of 40 Ray of Gawler Posted at 12:50 PM May 21, 2010 Thankyou Tony Picollo for the complete lack of infrastructure to accommodate it and other proposed developments around the town. Comment 32 of 40 Bill of Gawler Posted at 1:21 PM May 21, 2010 Andrew of Adelaide Posted at 8:54 AM Today - the neighbourhood went a long time ago, along with any dream of living the quiet life. You only have to read in the local paper's Police news to realise that Evanston Gardens has a high crime rate already. As for those worried about public transport, don't you know that Piccolo is going to fix the problem? With his mate Pat, they're going to electrify the rail system. Well whoopee doo! Comment 33 of 40 Gee Jay of Adelaide Posted at 1:25 PM May 21, 2010 To all those complaining about road congestion;there is a train service, that will become better with electrification,and much quicker than driving! There should be a decent green belt between all new estates. Comment 34 of 40 Benno of Gawler Posted at 1:47 PM May 21, 2010 How long will it be before Gawler is renamed North Elizabeth? Comment 35 of 40 Clive Charman of Hillier Posted at 2:17 PM May 21, 2010 When is Gawler council gong to get up to date, and realise that the town is no longer a heritage asset, but part of 2010. Comment 36 of 40 John of Adelaide Posted at 2:33 PM May 21, 2010 This is good news along with the new express way and the train track upgrade starting soon out north. The train will make it faster and more efficient than driving. They just need to put enough trains on to handle the capacity. It would also be good to see some sort of fast inter connection service between other suburbs also. Say an O-Bahn track along Main North Road linking into the North-East Suburbs. I don't understand why everyone is complaining. Oh yeah, this is in Adelaide. As for other infrastructure, it will only get better for the people who already live there. More people makes it more cost effective to provide infrastructure, so all you people complaining will get the benefits in infrastructure and house price increases. The North has so much potential that has been wasted over the years. Comment 37 of 40 Steve Harrison of Clare Posted at 3:04 PM May 21, 2010 What a potential nightmare for more little boxes to built on farm land. The Northern Expressway was never planned to carry commuters, it is a freight route designed a decade ago! Can you imagine the tailbacks from Port Wakefiled Road back into Gawler on teh Expressway when Buckland Park comes online as well... what horrendous short term planning. The potential residents of these homes should be living in inner city Adelaide in townhouses and apartments. We really need to change our thinking and stop developers perpetuating the urban myth that we can all have a home, two car garage and front and back yard...it is totally unsustainable. Comment 38 of 40 Brian of Adelaide Posted at 3:22 PM May 21, 2010 Doesn't anyone read the article? This is for 800 homes with 2000 people....not 200,000 people. The impact on infrastructure will be minimal. Comment 39 of 40 Steve T of Evanston Gardens Posted at 3:17 PM September 14, 2011 I have been living in Evanston Gardens for several years and generally speaking it's a pretty good place to live. Of course you get a few yobos who rent from Housing SA & the odd graffiti vandal but everywhere has their share of those morons. What I want to know is - how this will affect the value of my older home? One thing I am looking forward to is having some shops within walking distance. Comment 40 of 40