Fears BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto shares will fall further as fund managers say no more money

Iron ore rally continues Iron ore had one of its best weeks of the year with prices up 13.5% during the week. Iron ore finished at US$57.81/t CFR China. The deferral of BHP’s Inner Harbour Debottlenecking project on Wednesday has seemed to boost sentiment around the commodity, sending signals that the Australian iron ore expansion may be slowing. Iron ore also rose on hopes of further stimulus in China and as iron ore port stocks in China fell 0.42Mt to 97.16Mt last week. The total number of drill rigs deployed onshore in the US fell from 954 to 932 last week. Rigs deployed in oil plays fell from 734 to 703, while rigs deployed in gas plays increased from 217 to 225. US oil rigs have now declined ~56% since reaching a peak in early October, as US oil producers respond to lower crude oil prices. WTI crude finished lower as US inventories continue to rise. Base metals posted strong gains on Friday as a string of weaker economic data sparked expectations of stimulus in China. Gold futures posted their largest losses in seven weeks as equity markets outperformed and as investors weighed on the likelihood of interest rate rises in the US. ================= Iron ore plunge stokes pressure for Australia rate cut Wed, Apr 01 21:56 PM EDT By James Regan and Wayne Cole SYDNEY, April 2 (Reuters) - Pressure is mounting for a cut in Australian interest rates as soon as next week as plunging prices for iron ore, the country's single most valuable export earner, punish both mining profits and government tax revenue. The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) holds its monthly policy meeting on April 7 and markets are wagering heavily it will follow up a February easing with another quarter point cut to an all-time low of 2.0 percent. In part any move would be aimed at lowering the Australian dollar, which would assist commodity producers exporting U.S. dollar-priced products. Westpac chief economist Bill Evans noted iron ore prices had fallen around 15 percent since the RBA's March policy meeting, while the local currency was only down a single U.S. cent. "That is why it will be important for the bank to maintain an easing bias when it announces the cut next week," said Evans. "It will maintain downward pressure on the AUD." Interbank futures <0#YIB:> imply a better than 60 percent probability of an April easing, and are fully priced for one by May. Indeed, investors are already wagering rates will fall to 1.75 percent before the year is out. RBA governor Glenn Stevens says Australia is struggling with the end of its mining boom, noting that past mining booms had almost all ended very badly for Australia, usually through runaway inflation followed by a major crash. But Stevens says the RBA will continue to support the economy. BLOW TO MINING PROFITS, TAX REVENUE Spot Iron ore .IO62-CNI=SI stood at $49 a tonne after plunging 3.9 percent on Wednesday - the weakest since the index was introduced in 2008 and could drop as low as $47, forecasts Westpac Bank. The decline had a deadening impact on mining shares with Fortescue Metals Group off 3 percent, while Atlas Iron fell 3.8 percent and BC Iron 4 percent. With little prospect of rising iron ore prices, as global supply continues to expand in the face of waning demand growth, miners are counting on lower oil prices, cheaper freight rates and a weaker Australian currency to turn a profit. Iron ore is Australia's single biggest export earner so the collapse in prices has been as big a blow to government tax revenues as to mining profits. A half-decade after insulating Australia from the worst of the global financial crisis, the giant mining state of Western Australia is being forced to defer iron ore royalties which underpin tens of thousands of jobs. Stephen Walters, chief economist at JPMorgan, cites estimates from Australia's Treasury that every $10 per tonne drop in the iron ore price cuts up to A$3 billion off the national budget. Iron ore prices have fallen 70 percent, putting the ultimate drag on revenue up to A$30 billion," said Walters." That has only intensified pressure on Treasurer Joe Hockey to come up with savings or tax raising measures in his annual budget due in May, while also ensuring that the drag does not harm an already sluggish economy. "With fiscal policy being tightened, the onus will be on monetary policy to provide the support the economy needs." (Editing by Michael Perry) ============ traditionally when you go into the bust type of the cycle it can last a long time," he said. by Kate Cowling Fund managers with large holdings of Australian resource companies aren't committing any more funds to the embattled sector, raising questions about whether share prices of our biggest miners including BHP and Rio Tinto have further to fall. Two staunch supporters of Australia's mining sector, Pengana Capital and Fidelity, are adopting a wait-and-see approach following comments from the Treasurer that iron ore could fall as low as $35 a tonne and a warning from global credit rating agency Standard & Poor's. Both Pengana Capital's senior fund manager Tim Schroeders and Fidelity portfolio manager Paul Taylor said they wouldn't be adding to existing holdings in BHP and Rio Tinto at current iron ore prices. Pengana manages around $2 billion mostly invested in Australian equities and includes BHP and Rio Tinto among its top five holdings. "We have enough," Pengana Capital's senior fund manager Tim Schroeders said. Fears BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto shares will fall further as fund managers say no more money Both Pengana Capital’s senior fund manager Tim Schroeders and Fidelity portfolio manager Paul Taylor said they wouldn’t be adding to existing holdings in BHP and Rio Tinto at current iron ore prices. Louie Douvis by Kate Cowling Fund managers with large holdings of Australian resource companies aren't committing any more funds to the embattled sector, raising questions about whether share prices of our biggest miners including BHP and Rio Tinto have further to fall. The prized commodity has lost more than half its value in a year, falling to a 10-year low of $US47.08 ($61.91) per tonne last week, as BHP and Rio Tinto hit the accelerator on iron production. Schroeders said he was watching for further price falls but had no immediate plans to buy. Fidelity portfolio manager Paul Taylor said his firm is currently slightly underweight to BHP and Rio Tinto combined, relative to their benchmarks. "It is a bit of an unusual period and we're happy with that positioning," he said. He said while Fidelity takes a long-term investment view and favours quality companies with low production costs, the price is worth keeping an eye on. "If the macro environment knocks really high quality companies around, often that's your opportunity," he said. "We think the right way to structure the portfolio is towards low-cost producers and away from high-cost producers" he said. "The low-cost producers in Australia are BHP and Rio. They are well positioned." The reluctance of traditional supporters of the sector to back the giants follows a horror week for the iron ore giants in which Treasurer Joe Hockey speculated that iron ore could fall as low as $35 a tonne. On Tuesday Standard & Poor's placed Australia's three biggest miners on negative credit watch and on Wednesday BHP shareholder Nikko Asset Management described the mining giant's progressive dividend policy as a "travesty" and a "bear trap". Nikko Asset Management's head of equities Brad Potter said his firm had a "very negative view" of iron ore. He said his pessimism was not a reaction to the recent price drops, but warning signs that started emerging 12-18 months ago. He said his primary hesitation with iron ore was how long the down part of the cycle will last. "The risk is traditionally when you go into the bust type of the cycle it can last a long time," he said. 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Poll: Most Americans want payroll tax extension

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Most Americans want Congress to vote to continue the payroll tax reduction, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll that comes as Democrats and Republicans wrestle over whether to extend the cut through 2012.

It's the latest instance in which lawmakers on Capitol Hill have allowed partisan sniping to hold up a measure to put in place a policy that most Americans support, like ending the Bush tax cuts, cap and trade, and a surcharge on millionaires.

The dragged-out debate over whether to extend an expiring payroll tax reduction is one of many developments that have kept voters furious with their leaders all year. On the brink of the 2012 presidential and congressional elections, virtually all Americans are disappointed and frustrated with the political scene and nearly 6 in 10 say they are angry, the AP-GfK survey showed.

"It seems like there are parties that only want to get their agenda done," said liquor store owner James Jacobsen, 47, of East Hartford, Conn. "They're catering to special interests and not Americans. They are not representing the individual American."

Nearly 6 in 10 respondents say they want Congress to pass the extension, according to the poll. Letting the payroll tax break expire would cost a family making $50,000 about $1,000.

Yet, Republicans and Democrats are rejecting each other's proposals and trying to make law from what's left, a tactic they've used all year on debates over the budget and the nation's debt. The stalemates have caused a decline in confidence so severe that 15 percent of all adults and 32 percent of political independents say they don't trust either party to manage the federal budget deficit.

Economic discontent has spilled over into the political sphere all year and could influence the 2012 presidential and congressional elections. Occupy Wall Street and other protests against inequality have grabbed some attention from politicians, with Democrats the most supportive. Last week, a group of demonstrators camped out on the National Mall, crashed stately holiday parties and marched on Capitol Hill, demanding that Congress extend the payroll tax and insurance for the long-term unemployed.

On the payroll tax deduction, 58 percent of respondents said they want Congress to extend the break, while 35 percent want it to expire.

Democrats and independents are the strongest supporters of continuing the tax cut, while Republicans were evenly divided. But the difference is more partisan than ideological: Conservatives supported an extension, 54 percent to the 42 percent who prefer to let the reduction expire.

Those with annual incomes below $50,000 more strongly support the extension compared with higher-income respondents, and seniors were more likely than younger adults to back the extension.

On Wednesday, there was little sign Congress was listening.

Democrats who control the Senate rejected a GOP-ruled House plan to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits, but only with cuts to spending and sped-up approval of an oil pipeline. The Senate is crafting its own proposal in response.

If an agreement is not reached by the end of the year, payroll taxes will jump on Jan. 1 from this year's 4.2 percent back to their normal level of 6.2 percent.

Americans are virtually out of patience, the polling shows. And their distrust crosses party lines.

"I really don't feel that they are having the best interests of us as a people," said Rogersville, Tenn., resident Andrea Stafford, 38, a single mother of two who has been unemployed since the summer.

"And when I say people," she added, "I don't mean millionaires and government officials. I'm talking about the normal person who gets up and fixes their children's lunch and has to take off work when their child is sick because we don't have nannies."

The AP-GfK poll found congressional approval near its all-time low and nearly all Americans disappointed with politics. Eighty-four percent of the respondents disapproved of the way Congress is doing its job, with at least 8 in 10 Republicans, Democrats and independents feeling that way.

As for how to balance the federal budget, more now favor cutting government services as the best means to bring federal spending into balance. Sixty percent think lawmakers should focus on budget cuts over tax increases. That figure had been as low as 53 percent in August, during the showdown over raising the country's debt limit.

The biggest shift on that question has come from independents. In the August poll, 37 percent said lawmakers should focus on increasing taxes and 42 percent said cutting services. Now, that divide stands at 28 percent for raising taxes and 59 percent for cutting services.

The Associated Press-GfK Poll was conducted Dec. 8-12 by GfK Roper Public Affairs and Corporate Communications. It involved landline and cell phone interviews with 1,000 adults nationwide and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

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AP Deputy Director of Polling Jennifer Agiesta, writer Stacy Anderson and News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this report.

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============== Dec. 18, 2011 4:44 AM ET Payroll tax bill faces uncertain House prospects ALAN FRAM, Associated Press AIM Share President Barack Obama delivers a statement in the Brady Press Briefing Room at the White House in Washington, Saturday, Dec. 17, 2011 following the Senate vote to approve legislation extending a Social Security payroll tax cut and long-term jobless benefits for two months. Obama says it would be "inexcusable" for Congress not to extend a payroll tax cut for the rest of 2012 when lawmakers return from their holiday break. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta) 1 of 5 More News Video Senate OKs payroll tax cut, huge spending bill Dec. 17, 2011 10:51 PM ET Senate passes two-month extension of Social Security tax cut, additional unemployment benefits Dec. 17, 2011 9:46 AM ET Senate leaders reach last-minute accord Dec. 16, 2011 11:15 PM ET Congress leaders hope deal near on gov't shutdown Dec. 15, 2011 2:06 PM ET Republicans muscle tax cut bill through House Dec. 13, 2011 7:43 PM ET Advertisement Advertisement WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate-approved bill temporarily preventing a Jan. 1 payroll tax increase and benefit cutoff for the long-term unemployed faces uncertain prospects in the House, where many rank-and-file GOP lawmakers have told their leaders they are ready to reject the measure. House Speaker John Boehner is expected to be pressed about the next move for Republicans when he appears on NBC's "Meet the Press" show Sunday morning. The House plans a Monday vote on the bill, which also forces a reluctant President Barack Obama to make an election-year choice between unions and environmentalists over whether to build an oil pipeline through the heart of the country and across ecologically sensitive aquifer that provides water to eight states. The 89-10 Senate vote Saturday came after a bruising battle between Democrats and Republicans that produced the compromise two-month extension of the expiring tax breaks and jobless benefits and forestalled cuts in doctors' Medicare reimbursements. House GOP leaders held a conference call Saturday with rank-and-file lawmakers in which participants said strong anger was expressed about the Senate bill, including its lack of House-approved cuts in last year's health care overhaul law and its failure to erase the reductions in doctors' payments for more than two months. "You can't have an economic recovery with this," Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Ga., said of the bill. A House GOP aide said later, "Members are overwhelmingly disappointed in the Senate's decision to just 'kick the can down the road' for two months." The Senate vote capped a year of divided government marked by raucous partisan fights that tumbled to the brink of a first-ever U.S. default on its debts and three federal shutdowns, only to see eleventh-hour deals emerge. It also put the two sides on track to revisit the payroll tax cut early next year as battles for control of the White House and Congress heat up. While Obama and Democrats used the fight to portray themselves as defenders of beleaguered middle- and lower-income Americans, Republicans used it to cast themselves as champions of job creation. Democrats said when Congress revisits the issue of renewing the tax cuts and jobless benefits early next year, they would win the political battle because they would be viewed as protecting peoples' household budgets. Republicans, though, said they would once again focus the fight on jobs, with some predicting they would try adding provisions to repeal pollution curbs and other government regulations that they say make it harder for companies to hire people. Associated Press =================